We will not listen to what the people say – Mnangagwa

via Bulawayo24 NEWS | We will not listen to what the people say – Mnangagwa 30 May 2014

ZANU PF Presidential hopeful and current Minister of Justice, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Emmerson Mnangagwa says that the ruling party executive will not be bound to take into consideration any of the inputs into the Electoral Act Amendment Bill.

Speaking in parliament on Thursday, Mnngagwa said that while he appreciated the efforts of the portfolio committee that went around the country gathering public views on what the people felt should be included in the bill, the onus of what has to be finally put in the bill lies with the executive of the ruling party.

“Indeed, as Government, we regularly engage interested stakeholders in the public and private sectors and civil society at large when drafting legislation for our nation. We would only caution and remind hon. Members of Parliament that policy is within the domain of the executive branch of the State in accordance with the principle of separation of powers enshrined in our Constitution,” said Mnangagwa.

Speaking against loud disapprovals from the opposition side of the parliament, Mnangagwa insisted that members of the public can not tell parliament what to do as the Members of Parliament were elected to make laws for the country as representatives of the people. “Parliament was elected to make laws for the people. It is not for the people to do the work of Parliament,” said the Minister.

The parliamentary portfolio committee on Justice, Legal and Parliamentary affairs recently set up a committee that went out into all the provinces of the country consulting the public on what the people felt should be included in the controversial Electoral Act Amendments Bill which government sort to push through against the wishes of the opposition and some sectors of the population. The committee presented its findings to parliament which Justice Minister Mnangangwa is refusing to incorporate into the proposed reforms.

“I am thinking here of Bills such as this one that are urgently required for the functioning of the State or to realign our laws with the Constitution in the shortest possible time. This of course does not preclude consultations at a later stage when the laws come up for review or amendment. Parliament must develop additional or alternative means of consultations through for instance its Parliamentary website and also facilitating consultations by MPs in their constituencies with civil society organisations in attendance and that must not be forgotten,” Mnangagwa closed his debate.

 

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  1. pati says:

    Mr. Vince Musewe, there is your expedite response to your letter you wrote yesterday to the, according to you, next president of Zimbabwe. I hope you will never waste your time again exhorting these very corrupt and megalomaniac thieves masquerading as leaders of the people. Just listen to the disdain your Mnagagwa has for the people. According to him we are just his subjects at his mercy. Wake up Vince. The necessary power to change our political fortunes and consequently our economic and social well being is squarely on our shoulders. Let’s use it and stop looking up to the tested and proven corrupt.

    • NBS says:

      Yes! Vince I am afraid Pati is right. What sort of attitude is that? This arrogance will be pulled down by God. ZPF must repent. may the Lord Himself raise up a man to lead this nation: a man after His own heart. And Zimbabwe, let us stop putting man-any man- on a pedestal. Just who does Mnangagwa think he is? You treat your people like nothing. One day this will come back to haunt you. Enough is enough! Many years ago you proclaimed to have give you life to the Lord, Mr Mnangagwa. What happened to that. You are playing with fire: The fire of God’s judgment.

  2. pati says:

    Mr. Vince Musewe, there is your expedited response to your letter you wrote yesterday to the, according to you, next president of Zimbabwe. I hope you will never waste your time again exhorting these very corrupt and megalomaniac thieves masquerading as leaders of the people. Just listen to the disdain your Mnagagwa has for the people. According to him we are just his subjects at his mercy. Wake up Vince. The necessary power to change our political fortunes and consequently our economic and social well being is squarely on our shoulders. Let’s use it and stop looking up to the tested and proven corrupt.

  3. zanupf fear me says:

    Gullible naive armchair academic this attention seeker of zunde discredited Vince muses we…. anyway mnangagwa is earmarked and will very soon be of no consequence

  4. wensil says:

    There you are Vince, the Mnangagwa we know which you don’t seem to know. He is a ruthless and arrogant person with no consideration of any other person the kind of characteristics Mugabe likes because he is also like that.

    He has not a even a single diplomatic skill around him and considers ordinary people to be nothing, their views, aspirations as fodder.

    Even if we did vote for those MPs, they represent the people and hence their views. Not so according to ED their views are worthless, he is the all knowing.

    Hope no Zimbabwean apart from Vince imagines this guy as President, its time people we rise against continued tyranny by these Zanu PF thugs.

    • Petal says:

      Wensil hit the nail on the head ruthless arrogant
      perhaps Vince is looking for a position in the Ministry of Finance

  5. muntu says:

    Of course Mnangagwa can say this: the verdict of the people through elections count for nothing, just a window dressing for donors and speeches at the UN.

    • furedi says:

      That is something people of Zimbabwe are failing to understand.Nobody voted for these guys including Mugabe.Parliamentary seats were allocated by JOC,just to make it sort of realistic they gave some seats to MDC-T. Their constituency is not the people, it was nikuv whom they have already paid.All you MDC-T MPs in Parliament I ask you again to resign and go back to your real lives,there is no contribution you can make right now.

  6. roving ambassador. says:

    As heartless as we are spineless

  7. Tjingababili says:

    THIS IS WHY YOU WILL NOT MAKE

    IT AS PRESIDENT! YOU HAVE DICTATORIAL TENDENCIES, EMMERSON!

  8. Wezaka says:

    This is one country where the government chooses the people instead of people choosing a government. The people masses are accountable to Gvt and the Gvt to no one. This is for history textbooks.

  9. Canuck says:

    Roving……..you are dead right…….

  10. mandevu says:

    The disconnect between government and the people is exactly why we should ignore government completely – and by that I mean both sides.

    What we need is civil society to take charge of this country and build an accountable system. Not easy but it has t be done

  11. John Thomas says:

    It is on the record. He is too stupid to listen. This is why everything he does is a screw up.

  12. Washaya says:

    The cruelity he has ever been displayed but shall catch up wth him, stupid fool

  13. chief says:

    40genaration lets challenge ths old ages fm all parties.

  14. nyoni says:

    This idiot who killed thousands of innocents is to lead Zimbabwe one day. God have mercy on us.

  15. mr gukurahundi is a monkey. you wont have a chance of killing anyone now. we will kill you before you kill anyone else!

  16. gijo says:

    Zimbabwe is a cursed country. What, with leaders like this we do not even need sanctions to destroy ourselves. We are doomed.

  17. Mapingu says:

    So why waste scarce resources by commissioning such information gathering exercises when Mnangagwa & Zanu Pf believe once people have elected a government then they no longer have any say on how they want to be governed?

    Ridiculous, isn’t it?

  18. bruce koffe says:

    Garwe has spoken as his master. At least you are honest to tell them that you will not listen to them. Why should you listen to the people who never fought in the war of liberation. Who do not know the sound of a gun, who never slept in the bushes or trenches. Civilians who are ungrateful and now want to betray the struggle by voting a part for the whites. Why listening to the masses that never voted for you. Who are they? Mnangagwa you are very mean and do not have any sense of democracy. People is power. One day you will regret this statement.

  19. jobolinko says:

    Yes zanu will never like to play it fair in elections ,but they are people who are still voting for zanu even the poorest people the opppsition must find out why even if it means vote buying rather do it

  20. Gondobwe says:

    I want to hear the comment of Prof Muzvinavhu on this one. Where are you Prof?

  21. Wilbert Mukori says:

    “Parliament was elected to make laws for the people. It is not for the people to do the work of Parliament,” said Minister Mnangagwa.

    The Minister is right on, it is the prerogative of parliament to make the law what is at issue here is who elected these MPs who are writing these laws which we the people are expected to obey? It should the people who elect MPs and the State President and we know Zimbabwe is yet to hold free and fair elections in which the people have a meaningful say on who govern them. The July 2013 elections were blatantly rigged; Minister Mnangagwa knows that better than anyone else for he is a member of the Joint Operations Command which masterminded the vote rigging.

    If this parliament truly represent the will of the people of Zimbabwe and was sure it has the people’s mandate to rule then its first task after the 31 July 2013 elections should have been to clear the air and order a through independent judiciary investi-gation into all vote rigging allegations. This parliament has failed to even order the release of the voters roll it is now a year since it should have been made public.

    The voters roll is the smoking gun in the rigged 2013 elections.

    Many of MPs seating in parliament today are the beneficiaries of the rigged July 2013 elections. The illegitimacy of Mugabe and his regime is not in doubt and it is only the poor judgement of people like Tsvangirai who have even tried to accept the regime as a “political reality”. Any monkey can steal and wear the crown but no only a fool would pay homage to it as king; Mnangagwa knows that and we all know it!

    .

  22. I ashamed being Zimbabwean because of these morons.

  23. Petal says:

    the Iranians and Chinese are reportedly endorsing him and he is reportedly campaigning secretly at his rural palace possibly that is why he is as arrogant as he is

  24. Observer says:

    People do not want to be told the truth.This is the way democracy works where party politics is the norm.By voting you surrender your voice to a representative who is told how to think by party bosses.Especially where there is proportional representation.The ass lickers get the seats.

  25. Parangeta says:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    –Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

    The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world”.

    My answer to Mnangagwa and Musewe..”Cry my Beloved Country”.

    • Parangeta says:

      Just change these words to President of Zimbabwe, Ministers and Security Forces and We The People to We Zimbabweans and it is what must be done SOON!

    • DL says:

      Well done, and very appropriate! It’s the Declaration of Independence from the USA.

  26. Joe says:

    Zanoids are megalomaniacs. Lots of talk no action. But destruction absolutely yes there is no one to touch them

  27. Ngoto Zimbwa says:

    Mnangagwa and his lot rigged an election.
    Now, after a sham exercise of blatant politicking, he says he is not going to listen to anyone but go on destroying our beautiful country.

    And still, we do nothing.
    What, prey, is not dying as a people?

  28. Davy Mufirakureva says:

    Why is it that some posts are deleted from this site.

  29. gorongoza says:

    Mugabe’s bodyguard and secretary during the war. He knows nothing about the war and his claim to fame is being accussed of planning to derail a train. kkkkkk

  30. Zim Patriot says:

    Vince, please tell me you haven’t accepted blood money? I thought you were an amazing democrat? I thought you had brilliant articles and ideologies? I thought you were a real man of God and now you are supporting thieves, pillagers and murderers….I am deeply disappointed! Greed must have got the better of you as there is no other logical explanation…don’t sell your soul, for what does it gain a person to gain the world but loose his soul? satans agents come to steal kill and destroy and you have joined them. and for the record when you become an MP your mandate is to serve the people whose constituency you represent and not dictate to the people, but unfortunately this Minister, has never ever been fairly and freely chosen by the people, that is why he is so bitter towards we, the people of Zimbabwe…..

  31. Patriotic says:

    Did he really say that. People’s views will NOT be considered? Well that is very bad indeed if it is the truth.

  32. biend says:

    What happened to the parliament,for the people by the people,why are they wasting time and money holding fictious meetings when they have concluded already,to any one who doubted ZANU is a Tyranic and a Dictatorship Institution

  33. Mukanya says:

    Dictatorial material salvaged by correspondence education

  34. Maipisi says:

    The essence of parliamentary democracy revolves around majoritisism . Any political party constituting a majority in parliamentary democracy has a final say in deciding a course of action in parliament business . It will be naive for ZANU PF to fail to utilise its majority in parliament business.

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