Obama Snubs Zimbabwe’s Mugabe

via US-Africa Summit: Obama Snubs Zimbabwe’s Mugabe by Sandra Nyaira  22.01.2014 VOAZimbabwe

U.S. President Barack Obama has snubbed President Robert Mugabe, inviting leaders of nearly 50 African countries to a landmark US-Africa summit seeking to widen trade, development and security ties between America and Africa.

The United States announced the summit late Tuesday but released a statement Wednesday with the list of Heads of State being invited to the August 5 and 6 meeting.

Assistant Press Secretary Jonathan Lalley says Mr. Obama will include all African Heads of State or governments, with the exception of those who are not in good standing with the U.S. or under African Union suspension.

Egypt, Sudan and Madagascar are the other countries that have not been invited.

Lalley says A.U. chairperson Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma will also be invited to the meeting, which White House officials say Mr. Obama hopes to use to build on progress made since his June 2013 visit to Africa.

A White House statement said the trip would “advance the administration’s focus on trade and investment in Africa, and highlight America’s commitment to Africa’s security, its democratic development, and its people.”

President Mugabe was invited to a similar meeting in Japan last year when the Asian country set aside its sanctions against Mr. Mugabe allowing him to attend with other African leaders.

The United States maintains sanctions against Mr. Mugabe and close officials citing alleged election rigging, rights abuses and political violence. Harare says the co-called restrictive measures were put in place in retaliation to Mr. Mugabe’s land reforms that saw thousands of white former commercial farmers losing their land.

The summit was announced by Mr. Obama in a speech in Cape Town in June. Analysts say Washington is worried by China’s increasing economic and diplomatic profile in Africa and is upping its game to close a widening gap.

Kenya, whose President Uhuru Kenyatta is currently awaiting a delayed trial at the International Criminal Court on charges related to violence after the country’s violent 2007 election that left 1,000 people dead, has been invited to the U.S.-Africa summit.

The Zimbabwe government was yet to respond to the White House snub. Mr. Mugabe’s spokesman, George Charamba, did not answer his mobile phone., inviting leaders of nearly 50 African countries to a landmark US-Africa summit seeking to widen trade, development and security ties between America and Africa.

The United States announced the summit late Tuesday but released a statement Wednesday with the list of Heads of State being invited to the August 5 and 6 meeting.

Assistant Press Secretary Jonathan Lalley says Mr. Obama will include all African Heads of State or governments, with the exception of those who are not in good standing with the U.S. or under African Union suspension.

Egypt, Sudan and Madagascar are the other countries that have not been invited.

Lalley says A.U. chairperson Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma will also be invited to the meeting, which White House officials say Mr. Obama hopes to use to build on progress made since his June 2013 visit to Africa.

A White House statement said the trip would “advance the administration’s focus on trade and investment in Africa, and highlight America’s commitment to Africa’s security, its democratic development, and its people.”

President Mugabe was invited to a similar meeting in Japan last year when the Asian country set aside its sanctions against Mr. Mugabe allowing him to attend with other African leaders.

The United States maintains sanctions against Mr. Mugabe and close officials citing alleged election rigging, rights abuses and political violence. Harare says the co-called restrictive measures were put in place in retaliation to Mr. Mugabe’s land reforms that saw thousands of white former commercial farmers losing their land.

The summit was announced by Mr. Obama in a speech in Cape Town in June. Analysts say Washington is worried by China’s increasing economic and diplomatic profile in Africa and is upping its game to close a widening gap.

Kenya, whose President Uhuru Kenyatta is currently awaiting a delayed trial at the International Criminal Court on charges related to violence after the country’s violent 2007 election that left 1,000 people dead, has been invited to the U.S.-Africa summit.

The Zimbabwe government was yet to respond to the White House snub. Mr. Mugabe’s spokesman, George Charamba, did not answer his mobile phone.

 

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  1. Nyoni says:

    Does Mugabe care? He hates America and mixed race people even more.

    • American says:

      Your ignorance speaks volumes. No wonder the mdc-t is in the dog house and will remain there until it vanishes from the Zimbabwean political landscape. There is no such as a mixed races. Your nationality is determined by the house of your fathers. Read Numbers chapter 1, verse 18 in your bible,you idiot and stop promoting your evil diabolical agenda to divide the Zimbabwean people. It won’t work.

      • Umwrong says:

        There is no such thing as mixed races? You should take a genetics course and put the Bible down.

        • American says:

          Sorry dickhead. I will continue to hold the bible up as it will definitely have the last word in human affairs. Your unbelief does not matter since you will not be allowed into the gates.

        • American says:

          Your nationality is determined by the seed of your father. Enough of your Christian lies. Multitudes of Israelites saw Jesus on earth with their own eyes including his disciples and he preached only in the temples where the Jews(short for Judah) always reside. He was seen by the roman heathen governor Pontius pilot and the heathen king Agrippa. Your attempt to remove his nationality has fail and will continue to fail because IT IS A LIE,A BIG LIE.

    • fyn says:

      He cares. HE DOESNT HATE AMERICANS. he is jealous of them. Do not be blinded by Mugabes hypocricy. That guy leads an American life, he speaks like an American, his children live lavish lifestyles like Hollywood peeps, His wife wears american designer clothes only!

    • Mena Bona says:

      Why does he use the US dollar when he hates the Americans so much? He is a man that does not know what he is going to say before he opens his mouth. He has given China the countries most vital and viable resources to keep himself in power. Don’t all Zimbabweans see this, are they all blind? Anyone that thinks the Chinese love Africans is deluded. They do not. All they love is what they can take from Africa with, Beads and Mirrors, nothing more and Mugabe is the easiest to corrupt because in essence he cares nothing for the man in the street. When was the last time he walked down a street in Zimbabwe without been surrounded by soldiers. When a president can not do this, in his own country, you know there is a problem.

    • bie says:

      you such a pathethetic excuse of a humanbeing u full of hate and racism,repent

  2. joe says:

    Its his how dictators should be treated by being ignored. That pisses them off more than anything else.

  3. Nelson Mandela sold his soul to the banksters and hardly any changes have taken place after the demise of Pretoria. President Mugabe is the true lion of Africa for not bending down to kiss the feet of world’s worse violators of human rights and genocidal killers of the West particularly the snake head of rest of the criminal cartel of the West …the American White House regime. Mugabe in reality never gave a hoot to the Westerners even when he was pronounce a “terrorist” by then the Rhodesian criminal Cartel of UK and USA like Nelson Mandela was categorized a terrorist by the USA, UK and their minions. So Robert Mugabe keep the vigil and continue showing your shoes on their faces instead of those sold outs who can’t wait to kiss the feet of these criminal mafia gang of thugs. World knows who has committed crimes against humanity and who is the ring leader of human rights violations. Controlled Media has lost its credibility just the way these self-proclaimed world criminals with blood on their hands of tens of millions of innocent civilians around the globe that goes on daily with the might and the money of USA, UK, France, Italy, Germany, Israel and the dogs of the Gulf States of the Middle East can’t wait to lick the boots of their masters the USA and UK. Mugabe is Africa’s greatest leader and time will prove regardless of today’s trivial demonization by the criminal cabal of the West and their lap dogs.
    Zimbabwe is the richest country in Africa with its trillions of dollars of precious metal, diamonds, and other highly sought after natural resources that West salivates just to somehow get its dirty hands on they way they did in last 5 centuries over entire Africa and most of Asia. Asia and Africa are now awake knowing well what their strengths are and what the dirty tricks West has up it’s sleeves for Africans. Africans are fully aware of what is going on. America is broke and in debt to China, India and the Middle East then how in the world USA can possibly provide any kind of financial aid to Africa? Besides, West needs African minerals and natural resources not the other way around. Africa has survived the atrocious and cruel slave trade and centuries of criminal exploitation so a little side show of Obama won’t do any good to any of African countries less they are being fooled by the joker of Corporate American who are making a last ditch effort to con Africans that USA is in some miraculous way would come up with the financial aid for Africa when the USA is totally broke and in debt up to it’s nose and sinking every day more more where USA won’t be able to keep its head above the drowning waters.
    Robert Mugabe, you and your brave people of Zimbabwe have withstood the worse crimes against you by the West to black mail you so you can succumbed to the same scenario that Mandela did and failed to punish its centuries old criminals still controlling South Africa with a thin veneer of glossy glaze making it look shiny from outside yet the cancer that that its former colonists have planted is still in full speed killing Africans and African economies. Wake up Africa because we Americans know what criminalities are being perpetrated upon us by the criminal banksters cabal and their lap dog US Congress, the Senate and the token spade Obama!

    • Redemption says:

      Why do i get the feeling that this regime has employed people like Eid Malik to write in favor of a failed state
      That Mugabe does not care as stated by Nyoni, can be similarly put across that he does not care about Zimvabweans welfare as well.

      Nyoni, Mugabe does care about being invited, Globe trotting is the only thing he has ever cared about.
      Forget about Obama, if he really cared about Zimbabwean peoples welfare he would have displayed altruistic leadership qualities. The man is almost incapacitated at 90 years old as we speak. Our constitution provides for removing incapacitated individuals, lets see if parliament can do the right thing by invoking the constitutional provision in 2014

    • mark longhurst says:

      heee heee hee you are truly the greatest comic the world has ever seen or…..you live on the moon?

    • mark longhurst says:

      just google this Ed Melik esq fool ,you will see that everytime he opens his mouth he spews more sh!t than an elephant can produce out of its rrrrse!

    • Mena Bona says:

      Does Ed Malik live in a shoe box? Perhaps, if he is not employed by ZANU PF to write such drivel, he has never been to Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe is a failed state run by criminals. Millions of Zimbabweans having fled and those still there struggling to put food in their mouths from what was once one of the most successful countries in Africa. The Lion of Africa? More like the hyena of Africa.

      • Bee says:

        Did anybody see the Syrian foreign Minister speaking yesterday? What an imbecile. This is exactly what Ed Maleik sounds like My god, do these people actually exist and they actually believe the drivel that spews from their mouths.

    • Bee says:

      Ed Meiklik – utterly utterly brainwashed!!

    • bie says:

      If he such a brave, clever Leader and doesnt kiss the West s feet,why is half the population out of the country,including you,Zimbabwe uses American dollars,yet its leader hates Americans,how ironic,your comment my friend is like a spear in the hearts of displaced masses of Zimbabwe,because is sadly painful

      • 3poop@cooltoad.com says:

        ipapo he is using the usd and speaking their language.nganyore nechekwetu phela and not use even their alphabets

    • American says:

      Excellent post. You are spot on. Keep cutting them with the truth and let us sit back and read their vile and abominable responses. I am convinced that there is no light or truth in all the detractors on this page.

      • Umwrong says:

        “American,” you wouldn’t know the truth if it kicked you in the teeth. Zimbabwe is a shadow of Rhodesia — fact.

    • adam jones says:

      Mugabe kills Zimbabweans of all color – black, white , you name it. All the western nonsense is rubbish. The dictator only cares about power and protecting his skin. Were the American involved during GUKURAHUNDI? MURAMBATSVINA? and many other of his murderous activities? His is all about power and greed. This little devil could kill even its own mother if she was the only one still standing if he had to so as the retain power. What west?

      • American says:

        Utter rubbish!. Mugabe is Africa’s greatest son. The Zimbabwe people knows it, Africa knows it and the rest of the world knows it. The garbage you are peddling is bogus and no one in their right mind gives a hoot about what you think about our hero.

  4. Nodi says:

    Ed melik, u seem to have a horse-curbed mind though u show deep uderstanding of these developed economies. Is China coming to Zim to sell minerals or to loot minerals? Don’t talk too much, only fewer words prove u a man of facts. Why is this non-invitation bothering u so much if there is nothing about the US u want or has become a thorn in ur flesh? Bssp, munofa neBP mukazvitevedza izvi.

    • Kubota Binga says:

      I guess response is due to fact that a few of you are making a farce of it. Its only America keeping to their policy, to uphold sanctions on Mugabe, so the sotry is a non event to start with.

  5. DW says:

    Melik you must stop drinking your bathwater, you are a very sick puppy!

  6. Zimbo says:

    Hey Melik,do us all a favour and refrain from contributing on this forum.We have enough lap dogs in Zimbabwe doing Mugabes bidding.Anyway what good will it do if he was invited?Sleep?It would cost the country a helluva lot less if he just stays at home.

  7. jj says:

    I read the top part of maliq’s comment, I couldn’t finish. it’s full of nonsense

  8. easily fooled says:

    I read the first sentence only, he is not well upstairs

  9. simon says:

    ofcourse Mugabe cares why you think he keeps harping on about these few little travel sanctions. Only the Brainless or those on the gravy train will praise and admire a man who has murdered thousands of people and brought a whole nations down and sold or gave their souls to the zhing zhong clan. West is best east just feast!

  10. king mufasa says:

    The leadres of the currency you are using don’t invite you to talk and that’s fine by you.This is the stupid arrogance of Zanu-PF.

  11. Khaya'bonina says:

    Not inviting him doesn’t affect him as an individual , but it is a big blow to us the citzens of Zimbabwe , Obama as a wise man should have realised that .

    Anywhere it doesn’t help to invite him he will be almost dead by August , at list Obama should have invited Mujuru to represent Zimbabwe .

  12. bingo wajakata says:

    Khaya’bonina, sounds logical but think again! Guess what, Mujuru would join her husband compliments of her party, in simple terms they would kill her or at best Munangangwa would use it as ammunition to bolster his own chances. I am sure you follow.

  13. obert says:

    We may deny it, but its true, the USA is broke. Obama is just posturing. By not inviting Mugabe, he did well though, for the USA, that is. He knows who can be friends with his country. Mugabe is a complete write off as a leader.

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Obert;
      The US economy has almost turned the corner – GDP is forcast to grow at 2.8% come 2015, compared to the current 1.9%. We are talking of a 15 trillion dollar economy, compared to China, the second biggest economy at 9 trillion dollars.

      The employment figures are up, and this is thanks to Obama, the most powerful leader on planet earth. Not your useless, 90-year old Zwimba gukurahundi thug who presides over an economy that is smaller than that of the city of Durban, with a miniscule 4 billion dollar annual budget he cannot even fund.

      Jannet, the newly appointed Fed chair will soon introduce tapering, sending your sorry gukurahundi economy into a tailspin. The days of Quantitative Easing (QE) are numbered, and the young man of Kenyan ancestry is straggling the global stage with pride.

      This is the URGENCY OF NOW – Barack Obama mfowethu!!!

      • Umwrong says:

        Another thing that many don’t consider is that nearly half of the Chinese industry is occupied with U.S. (and, to a lesser extent, European) investments. Effectively, that work force is slave labour to the United States. The People’s Republic will truly be in trouble if the Americans actually start taking care of their debt situation. It would seem the American economy is about to stride forward yet again.

      • William Doctor says:

        @ Mthwakazi

        Oh yes – then why have the Chinese just refused to fund ZimAsset? Ha ha – the last laugh will always be on you comrade.

  14. Mabasa says:

    Sad the old man’s career is ending on a very sad note. Its painful for such sharp mind to leave a very bad legacy, worst economic record, bad human rights record, questionable legitimacy and the indignity of using your worst enemy’s currency. Is it too late to repent and retire in peace?

  15. Ra says:

    By the way who really is Barrack Obama to you as you are showering him with praises? If it is me l don’t give a dame.

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Ra, who are you you laatie? little pikinini, who cares about your not giving a damn. You are a non-entity of no identity gukurahundi piece of shiiit!!

  16. Mthwakazi says:

    Good; Excellent. Gukurahundis should always be isolated. They should know that shedding human blood cannot go unpunished. Gukurahundi Mugabe will never see America, the UK and Europe before he dies. That’s very lovely news indeed!!

  17. Ra says:

    Stupid Mthwakwazi, Mugabe does not care about america, europe whatever. U haven’t got yet his meassage loud and clear ‘ keep your america and l will keep my Zimbabwe”. Do u need an interpreter to understand this message?

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Ra
      Its you who is stupid. He has just claimed to be BRITISH, a few days ago. He indeed cares and is hurting badly – take that!!!

    • Ruramai says:

      Ra, why does Mugabe use the US dollar? Why didn’t he adopt the currency of his “look east” policy, the Chinese yuan?

  18. Khaya'bonina says:

    @ Bingo , i understand your point about Mujuru being so unsafe , but i am sure she is aware and ready , in ZANU PF soon it will be a survival of the fittest as the succession battle strongly continues , Mujuru might strike first , she is having huge support and she is a threat to the other faction .

    I don’t really mean it that Mujuru must be invited to Obama’s meeting which will cause division to Africa as it is singling out other African head of states , but my mere point is that if Obama was the really Obama who called for a united African state when addressing the world head of states in Mandela’s memorial service , then he is supposed to stick to those words , remember after his address at Mandela’s memorial service he went straight to his worst enemy the president of Cuba and prefered to shake his hand , the word noticed that really Obama was ready to do like Mandela to share a table with his enemies for a way forward as Mandela did . Obama doesn’t care about us as Zimbabweans ,remember Mugabe is an individual he is not Zimbabwe himself as he thinks , Obama must find a way to deal with Mugabe and solve their disputes , if his gathering is about uplifting Africa then it is unfortunately that our beloved nation is not part of this , i totally discredit Obama today , he is no longer my mentor as he has failed to be constructive .

    • Hutu says:

      Ed Melik is delusional. Most probably suffers from psychotic episodes. Anyhow even if he was invited he and his delegation would spend the whole event sleeping in their chairs. What good would that do the country. Good call Obama let them sleep at home. Now lets see if his friends from SADEC boycott the event because he is not invited.

    • Umwrong says:

      Take into consideration that the United States legislature, and not the president, has the authority to revoke, amend, or abridge the targeted sanctions. Therefore, Obama himself could not extend an invitation even if he wanted to. Further, his snub of President Mugabe is a consequence of the action of re-electing him. The United States wants nothing to do with a Zanu(PF)-governed Zimbabwe. It is their right.

  19. Khaya'bonina says:

    Its very unfortunately that people like Mthwakazi have taken this word guguraundu slightly unaware we are being hurt by doing so ,please Mthwakazi ndini , if you are a party stop campaigning using this word guguraundu , it is hurtng me and others , don’t play arround this word , if you feel you can solve damages of guguraundu please come forward with a strategic plan then we will support you , but if you just always mention it for funny as you always do , please stop your act , you hurt me and others so much as i lost relatives during that time , we don’t trust Mugabe anymore but you should personally find other means to express your feeling about it .

    Mfowethu , eMtebeleland South , kusekela eFordacher , eMatopo , eSilobini , eSigithi, eDula, eMpu, eSwitsha , eKumbudzi , eMtshabezi, eGwanda lakwezinya indawo salimala kakhulu , sifuna usizo lamanje , uma ulokhe ukhuluma njalo ngale indaba kodwa ungelasizo ngcono uvele uthule , ngoba uyasilimaza empefumulweni .Zikho izinto zokudlala hayi le odlala ngayo .

  20. Khaya'bonina says:

    @Mthwakazi , check above ,i know you will go out of your way but thats my advice to you .

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Khayabonina
      Look here mfondini – its clear you Have a soft spot for the gukurahundi Mugabe. This I have picked from your postings.

      So please, dont expect some of us; me in particular to share your passion for the gukurahundi. Some of us will never allow the gukurahundi issue to be buried under the carpet; which is what you are trying to do in support of your gukurahundi heroes, under the excuse that its hurting you. I dont believe it.

      You even believe and talk about CHIMURENGA – we never had Chimurenga in Mthwakazi or in PF ZAPU. I lived in the 1970s, there was nothing like that in our region or in Zambia were our movement was based.

      This is a Gukurahundi ZANU PF term, used in Mashonaland and in Mozambique – not in Mthwakazi. In ZAPU we knew about UMZABALAZO – ZABALAZA!!! AMANDLA – AWETHU!! MATLA, KE WA RONA!! as we worked hand in hand with the ANC and Umkhonto WeSizwe – not your rubbish CHIMURENGA!!

  21. Bhora says:

    So much for targeted sanctions Mr Obama. You are having a summit where you will be deciding the economic road map between the united states and african countries. I do not think that this is a summit on who is a darling of the west. By snubbing our president, you have inadvertantly snubbed the people of Zimbabwe. In other words, the citizens of Zimbabwe have been snubbed from any economic discussions and potential bi-lateral trade. If this is not economic sanctions on a state, what do you call it? You invite an African Head of state who is facing trail for gross human rights violations, but you will not invite our president who has done nothing more than try and address a historical economic inbalance?

    Tell us then that you have not placed the people of Zimbabwe under economic sanctions? Mr Mugabe has many failings, many, many failings, even too many to count. But we are human, and we all have them. If there are personal travel restrictions on an individual, why no allow them to send an attache? Why snub the country? While I agree that the issue of sanctions has been used by ZPF as an excuse for numerous failings (some simply administrative incompetence and corruption), it is apparent that the economic prosperity of the country is not the first thing that is a concern to many of these countries. They just want to send a statement that “if you try and change the status quo, we will cast you aside like a rabid dog and you will wollow in your own filth and poverty”

    SHAME SHAME SHAME

  22. Mthwakazi says:

    He is an asshhole and an idot. There is nothing exceptional about him losing his siblings or being abandoned by a father. This is common in many African families.

    President Jacob Zuma does not even know his father, whom he lost when he was about five. He took up a job as a gardner in Durban at a very young age, to help fend for his family. There were no missionaries to help him, so he never went to school.

    He spent ten years on Robben Island; out there in the sea, surrounded by shalks and all sort of evil underwater creatures – one simply couldnt escape.

    Robert Mugabe set comfortably at Chikurubi, and proceeded with his education. Besides, he only took over responsibility over the family at a ripe age of 21; many African children do this at the age of nine or ten; especially these days of HIV/AIDS.

    Depite all the suffering, Jacob Zuma is a convivial and jovial man; easy going and to engage. He is not as angry as Gukurahundi Mugabe always is.

    Zuma never gukurahundied his fellow African citizens for holding different political views from him or for being of a different tribe and language to his. Instead he was a peacemaker, who worked hard and brought peace to KwaZulu Natal between the IFP and the ANC.

    Gukurahundi Mugabe should stop the excuses. He is simply an evil devilish two-legged creature ever to walk on planet earth. He should simply die and go to hell a million times. Satanic evil devil. The Biblical name GABRIEL has real been desecrated by this 90 year old evil dark skinned creature!!

    • wenafeela says:

      Thats brilliant thinking bhora. Alternatives are more important than completely isolating zimbabawe. Using attaches where the powers that be seem more reasonable and appropriate as at some time in the future engagement will be definitely required and feasible. Only dialogue will work.
      The Americans have also shown failure here by inviting kenyata. The man has an equally chequered history when it comes to human rights issues and corruption.

    • machakachaka says:

      Zuma may not know his father. So do the babies whose fathers were murdered by Zuma’s police at Marikana. They will never see their fathers, and will never feel the love of their fathers.

      • Mthwakazi says:

        machakachaka
        You are an asshoole. Mzansi is NOT like the Gukurahundi Republic. The SAPS are not ZUMA’s police – these are not like your gukurahundi Police, the ZRP. They dont even report to him as is the case in Zimbabwe.

        ZRP reports to Mugabe, but with a sepaential relationship with the Home Affairs Minister. Actually Commissioner Chihure even has more power than Kembo Mohadi. These are Mugabe police, doing ZANU PF’s bidding.

        SAPS report to the Minister of Police, Nathi Mthethwa, who in turn reports to the President. They have an internal independent investigation unit, which monitores their activities – something which ZRP does not have.SAPS are made up of all ,mixed races, whites, cloureds, Indians and blacks. Now you want to tell me whites support Zuma, you must be joking!!

        Zuma was in Maputo at a SADC conference when the police killed people in Marikana; hence he had to cut short his visit to attend to this unexpected disaster.

        You are singing your usual Julius Malema, DA Hellen Zille diatribe against President Zuma, in the hope that he loses elections. Forget it, your Tenders thief Julius is the one who will soon be in the dolldrums. What with the court cases on graft and speeding facing him!!

        • machakachaka says:

          You may hate me, but I don’t hate you my brother. But condemning Marikana is not automatically glorifying what happened in our own country during the early years of independence. The problem with some like you is that anyone who sees things differently then becomes an ******* as you say. If people like you come to power, dissenting voices will be swiftly silenced. How then do people like you pretend to be different from the Mugabe you hate so much?

          You cannot not say Zuma is not in charge of the police, when the police fall under a minister appointed by Zuma. Ultimately the buck stops with Zuma in South Africa, just like the buck stops with Mugabe in Zimbabwe. The moment we say a president is not in charge of his country, we imply that that person has ceased to be president.

          Educate me if you think my opinion is misplaced. Calling each other bad names has never built any society. Our kids will read this and wonder what kind of fathers and mothers we have become. Be objective in your argument, and not hate anyone with a different opinion, or those who use different words to say the same thing you are saying.

          • Mthwakazi says:

            machakachaka
            I did not say the Pres Zuma is NOT in charge of the Police. I said, the police do not report to him; and compared to the gukurahundi police, he does not use them as his personal tool.

            You called them Zuma’s police isnt it? They are a national police service in SA, to Zuma’s police!!

        • Umwrong says:

          Actually, the national police commissioner is Riah Phyega who reports to Mthethwa who reports to Zuma, but I do get what you are saying. Also, Helen Zille isn’t a bad political figure I might add. She’s a nice lady.

  23. yoyo says:

    If we ever have civil war its because of silly , sick ,stupid, sanile,self centred Mugabe.Instead of worrying about trips to the West.He must use his energy to form an enquiry into the massacres of Matebeleland, of which he is a principal architect.We can not ignore the pain of the Ndebele, the trauma they are still undergoing.Only fools who are not in touch with reality ignores.When I was at UZ ,I shared a room with a Ndebele guy.We liked each other so much .One day he looked me in the face and said”When I am home I don’t tell them I stay with a Shona guy” I felt cold to the bone marrow.I thought he hated me.He later on told me how his father, a truck driver was butchered in full view of his wife and children.His crime was that he crosses borders so he was bringing weapons.If we want to move forward, really let us not ignore Mthakwazi.Bring them to the table and ion out differences, first apologise.Church leaders must apologise if the stupid silly man doesn’t want

  24. Mixed Race says:

    This Ed Melik is a person who is suffering from his own failures in the USA.Which country in this world has not gone through economic problems in the past? The Chinese economy is just starting to show serious signs of slowing down-who knows how it will be like in a few years time with its huge population.In his article he has left out vital information about the economic improvement done so far by the Obama administration for obvious reasons.He deliberately omits mentioning that China has looted most of our resources to jack its slowing down economy.China may have money now but it wont go far because of its selfish approach to international disasters.They hardly assist countries with disasters like the west, so its money remains in the banks to appear to be very rich.This Melik man is so misguided and shows signs of total hate for the country he lives in–shame on him.Mr Obama, this is an individual your monitoring agent should monitor his activities closely.
    Mr.Mandela was a man of peace who preached the spirit of reconciliation NOT your barbarism imported from the worst organisations we know throughout the world.Who are you to speak on our behalf when you are sitting in comfort in the USA?

  25. ike says:

    Who is Obama? We don’t give a damn!! This guy doesn’t mean good to Africa. He is doing the White man’s bidding. A ceremonial black President!!! What has he done for Africa all these years he has been in power! He is just competing with the short and Chinese guys who have taken Africa by a storm. Obama’s masters know that Bob won’t stomach nonsense. They well know he sees through their schemes. Solution: don’t invite the intelligent old man.

    • Mthwakazi says:

      ike
      What has Africa done for itself, besides creating dictators; destroying infrastructure and laying to waste whatever the former colonialists built?

      You are always crying about the west/Obama – why is it the Asian nations dont shout time and again against the west, despite some of them having been colonised?

      Look at Japan, wasnt it nuked by the Americans? Look at South Korea and its Sumsungs and Hyndais etc; Look at India – they were colonised by the British – but they now produce and export TATA Vehicles; they are a nuclear power and are into space research – what about Africa?

      Asians have gotten their hands dirty and created wonders out of their nations. They are not cry-babies like Africans.

      Do you know that much of Africa, especially Central Africa has no Railways system whatsoever? How many years have these people been governing themselves?

      Whatever rail system exists is what mining companies installed to facilitate the movement of minerals from their mines in the hinterland to the coast for exports. Africa is logistically, the poorest continent in the world, yet we have fifteen landlocked countries.

      The cost of doing business in Africa is astronomical and we only have about 1% global trade, much of it in uprocessed and unbeneficiated minerals!!!

    • machakachaka says:

      Yes, that is why I always say the majority of Kenyans are very good people. It’s only two who are really bad guys. Raila Odinga and Barack Obama.

    • Ruramai says:

      Ike, Obama is an American President and therefore he is accountable to the American people, not Africans. The meeting is about building mutually beneficial trade relationships with Africa. Our president has stated time and time again that he has looked east.

      By the way, if Mugabe were as intelligent as you seem to think, Zimbabweans would not be poorer than they were at independence.

  26. tafadzwa maguta says:

    its deceptive to think we are okay,when we know well we are not.dont be afraid of the truth ,by going out and find faults in other people.we have people driven by a selfish economic interest posturing as the revolutionary drivers of our collective aspirations.self aggrandisement has been sugar…coated with nobilities of revolutionarism and we have a clique that has annointed itself as custodian to our collective empowerment ,even to the extent of enjoying the benefits on our collective behalf.the west and other nations had seen our plight,and they are fighting on our behalf.whatever the prons and cons of him going and not going,they at get the msg,which we myt have failed to convey to them as subjugated people.its a pity we have,dissident intellectuals,among us whose desire is to sweep the dust under the carpet….shame…..

  27. Khaya'bonina says:

    @Mthwakazi , its very unfortunately to you, the word which topped up after the liberation struggle was Chimurenga and it was written in your books , ask a Shona speaking person to explain it better , remember the two forces ZIPRA and ZANLA operated together in Mozambique and they had to split after some disputes already the word Chimurenga was existing there, Shonas were also involved in the ZIPRA forces under ZAPU its not a tribal issue , you are still a boy you just argue without facts , i was born 1959 I was part of the struggle , the word Mthwakazi is coming from your asshole it never existed or echored during the liberation struggle , even the father of the nation Joshua Nkomo never echored this Mthwakazi word , you are taking chances young man , stop it .

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Khaya
      You are a liar. I was in ZAPU myself, I attended meeting after meeting in Gaborone in the 1970s, there was no CHIMURENGA word. Just say you were a ZANU member, there is nothing wron with that. What is wrong is pretending to be what you are not.

      Even the standard of your English – its not that of someone who went through Rhodesian education or Rhodesian schools. You sound more like a ZIMSEC graduate. You are blooody liar – you have been caught!!

  28. Khaya'bonina says:

    @Yoyo , i don’t ignore this windy Mthwakazi coming from noway , he talks too much with the solution to this issue of gugura , by the way he is wondering in the streets of JOBURG , now he has learnt even Xhosa mfondini . Empty vessel making unreasonabl noise .

  29. Hutu says:

    Ike this is the table of Americas biggest trading partners. The loot your resources and trade them to the Americans. Dispute it if you may.

    Country Exports Imports Total Trade
    Canada 292.9 324.2 616.7 -31.8
    China 110.6 425.6 536.2 -315
    Mexico 216.3 277.7 494 -61.4
    Japan 70 146.4 216.4 -76.4
    Germany 48.8 108.5 157.3 -59.7
    United Kingdom 54.8 54.9 109.8 -0.1
    South Korea 42.3 58.9 101.2 -16.6
    Brazil 43.7 32.1 75.8 11.6
    Saudi Arabia 13.8 55.7 73.8 -37.6
    France 30.8 41.6 72.4 -10.8
    Taiwan 24.4 38.9 63.2 -14.5
    Netherlands 40.7 22.3 63 18.4
    India 22.3 40.5 62.9 -18.2
    Venezuela 17.6 38.7 56.4 -21.1
    Italy 16 36.9 52.9 -20.9

  30. Ike What storm? They have taken our resourses cheaply and sold them to other countries for a good profit.

  31. Mthwakazi says:

    I for one; I am waiting for the day I will lay my hands on Bona, Chatunga and Robert jnr – you wait!!

    They will have to pay a heavy price for their evil father’s sins. If my people are paying a heavy price for the 1890s tribal wars, which they never participated in, why should these little gukurahundis get away – hell no.

    They still have a long life ahead of them. We will meet one day; I will hunt them down, especially outside the borders of Zimbabwe!!

    • machakachaka says:

      Bona, Robert jnr and Chatunga are innocent civilians. When you hunt civilians down to kill or maim them, it’s called terrorism.

      • Mthwakazi says:

        @machakachaka
        In the same vein Ndebele people and Mthwakazi in general are innocent civilians – they were not there in the 1890s.

        So clearly, the Shonas who are always terrorising Mthwakazi; discriminating against them culturally and linguistically and justifying gukurahundi on the grounds of the tribal wars of the past are committing terrorism. Do you get my drift!!

      • William Doctor says:

        @ machakachaka

        No – we will take away their ill–gotten funds one day. Civilians? ZanuPF feels nothing about murdering civilians – more than 20000 to date actually. So Mugabe’s children will pay.

  32. Hutu says:

    Ike FYI

    The largest Chinese partners in billions of US Dollars are as follows:

    Region Exports Imports[1] Total trade Trade balance
    E U 356.0 211.2 5 67.2 +144.8
    USA 324.5 122.2 446.7 +202.3
    ASEAN 170.1 192.8 362.9 -22.7
    Japan 148.3 194.6 342.9 -46.3
    S/ Korea 82.9 162.7 245.6 -79.8
    India 50.5 23.4 73.9 27.1
    Russia 38.9 40.3 79.2 -1.4
    Taiwan 35.1 124.9 160.0 -89.8

  33. Ra says:

    @ Mthwakwazi l wonder why gukurahundi left u behind! U are such an idiot.go to hell with your gukurahundi!

    • Mthwakazi says:

      Ra
      You are an idiotic gukurahundi – wake up and smell the coffee. I will never shy away from telling like it is. If you are a thief, I will say so, right in your face; I don’t bit about the ush!!

      • Ra says:

        @ Mthakwazi nothing u will ever dame do about gukurahundi until u enter yo bloody grave having gukurahundi bitterness. U dame think that by uttering yo gukurahundi nonsense wil ever change anything. Put yo real name and adress on this bloody site if u are that brave. Why don’t u dame go to Harare state house and tell them about yo bitterness and see if u ever be back home son of a b**ch.

        • Mthwakazi says:

          @Ra
          You are crying and fighting hard on behalf of Gukurahundi Mugabe; how much is he paying you?

          I can assure you on one thing, I and many other Mthwakai guys who we deal with may not be able to do anything to Mugabe, seeing he is already 90, and is about to die.

          But rest assured, we will certainly do something spectacular on Bona, Chatunga and Robert jnr, in the not so distant future.If not on all of them, but certainly on one of them. Watch the news!!!

  34. Khaya'bonina says:

    @Mthwakazi , my people —–eh you are owning people now as dwurf minded as you are , please think again. Two weeks time i will be in South Africa , can you invite me to your offices , where are you situated , is Julius Malema your mentor ?? Sebekufundisile indimi zabo sewudelela , mina ngazalwa ubaba lomama bekuZAPU namanje ngikuZAPU never mind even though it is unstable , iZANU ngeyakho .

  35. NBS says:

    Ed Meliks hand doesn’t tick all the way around the clock for sure. He should have the starring role in the. “World of Walter Mitty.” He takes fantasy to a new level.

    • Hutu says:

      It’s a real pity that after all the good debate we’ve had on this forum it has turned into a swearing match between a couple of tribalists. As you will notice they are spending a lot of time shouting obcenities at each other. What a disgrace.

  36. Save says:

    The American democracy is so enshrined into the constititution and law so much that its next to impossible to break the rules successfully before the law checks any such attempt. Remember there is a piece of legislation in the US called the Zimbabwe Democracy Bill

  37. Mthwakazi says:

    GUKURAHUNDIS, LISTEN HERE!!
    Obert;
    The US economy has almost turned the corner – GDP is forcast to grow at 2.8% come 2015, compared to the current 1.9%. We are talking of a 15 trillion dollar economy, compared to China, the second biggest economy at 9 trillion dollars.

    The employment figures are up, and this is thanks to Obama, the most powerful leader on planet earth. Not your useless, 90-year old Zwimba gukurahundi thug who presides over an economy that is smaller than that of the city of Durban, with a miniscule 4 billion dollar annual budget he cannot even fund.

    Jannet, the newly appointed Fed chair will soon introduce tapering, sending your sorry gukurahundi economy into a tailspin. The days of Quantitative Easing (QE) are numbered, and the young man of Kenyan ancestry is straggling the global stage with pride.

    This is the URGENCY OF NOW – Barack Obama!!!

  38. John Thomas says:

    Mugabe has been a disgrace in good company his entire career. He has no real friends. There in nowhere he is welcome except when giving away other people’s property.

    That there are a substantial number of people who cannot see him clearly is the real problem.

    I am sure Mr Obama’s meeting will be more pleasant for all present as a result of our odious leaders absence.

  39. mujibha says:

    Ed melik open your eyes to see what is surounding you and use your brains to analize not to use your ass to see and think. You better shutup. Idiot

  40. Wow. All these demented mugarbage worshippers. Joey bimha thecrook got his illiterate mujibhas really busy. True panic at this well deserved snub. Kikikikikimimikikikikikikikikimikimikikikikikiiikkiii

  41. ZimJim says:

    Well said, Revenger. Bob is an a-hole.
    Everybody knows it, Obama included.
    If ANYONE wants to hold a serious meeting would they invite the “village idiot”?
    I think not.

  42. We have seen on this forum a debate started and is currently gone on topic and off topic. We have seen individuals go at it hammer and tong. We have seen hate. We have seen some of the sensible contributors lose control. I cannot say I know why those that started this website did. I suspect they wanted Zimbabweans to see the true picture on the ground.I don’t think they anticipated the @Mthwakazi and the @ RA’s to behave as they did today. Spewing all the hate they did.Some tried to cool them off and also ended up getting emotional. My brothers I URGE YOU whether you are white black, brown or green, whether you are white Zlmbabwean Shona or Ndebele, continue to engage each other. Ignore these people when they contribute because of the hate they have spread. You have NBS, MIXED RACE, JACK THE RABBIT, FALLENZ, CLIVE SUTHERLAND, REVENGER,BOSS MY ASS who we haven’t heard from for a while, BEE and all the others that have contributed to this website. I am going to do what the Rabbit has done in the past.Jack the Rabbit this is for you and all my brothers that are dying for freedom.

    Sometimes in our lives
    We all have pain, we all have sorrow
    But if we are wise
    We know that there’s always tomorrow

    Lean on me when you’re not strong
    And I’ll be your friend, I’ll help you carry on
    For it won’t be long
    ‘Til I’m gonna need somebody to lean on

    Please, swallow your pride
    If I have things you need to borrow
    For no one can fill those of your needs
    That you won’t let show

    You just call on me, brother, when you need a hand
    We all need somebody to lean on
    I just might have a problem that you’ll understand
    We all need somebody to lean on

    Lean on me when you’re not strong
    And I’ll be your friend, I’ll help you carry on
    For it won’t be long
    ‘Til I’m gonna need somebody to lean on

    You just call on me, brother, when you need a hand
    We all need somebody to lean on
    I just might have a problem that you’ll understand
    We all need somebody to lean on

    If there is a load
    You have to bear that you can’t carry
    I’m right up the road, I’ll share your load
    If you just call me

    Call me (If you need a friend)
    Call me (Call me uh-huh)
    Call me (When you need a friend)
    Call me (If you ever need a friend)
    Call me (Call me)
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    • Mthwakazi says:

      Doctor do little
      What a wondeerful song, I love it to bits.

      Just how I wish our Shona majority could take it to heart and accept that Mthwakazi people are fellow brothers and sisters who have similar rights to theirs, despite their being a minority.

      With this song, I hope and pray they will realise the errors of their ways and stop calling on Mthwakazi to atone for 1890s wars they were not involved in;

      I hope and pray, they accept that it would be sinful and evil to expect Mthwakazi people to make similar calls on Chatunga, Robert jnr and Bona on account of their father’s gukurahundi sins;

      I hope and pray that they accept that every Zimbabwean, Mthwakazi people included, Welshman Ncube and Dumiso Dabengwa included have every right to participate in the national politics and any other affairs of their country, at any level like all Shona people;

      I hope and pray that in line with their claims of being the most educated, they reflect this in their daily lives in engaging fellow citizens and avoid playing double standards when things dont go their way.

      THANK YOU VERY MUCH DOCTOR DO LITTLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!

  43. hutu says:

    Doctor do little.. The beloved country cries. Thank you for staying cool.

  44. Realist says:

    He wasn’t invited because the Chinese hell-hole more commonly known as is Zimbabwe is irrelevant on the global stage.
    Which should suit the west-hating dictator just fine. He can take a dollar and buy a Coke..if he can find one in one of the few shops still open.

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